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zola 2006-06-14 评论 IM和EMAIL才是小众的活动吧?
我觉得BLOG能成为基础应用。
我直觉认为,以后,每个人联上网后不再是盲目的“冲浪”,而是用“搜索”和“订阅”两种方式获取信息,用BLOG发布信息。
所以,我预见,搜索服务如GOOGEL,订阅服务如zhuaxia\bloglines,还有BLOG服务都是网络基础应用。
wolf 2006-06-15 评论 这是我将本文发到一个讨论组获得大家的一些回复,也整理放到这里:
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Blog在互联网世界中有不可替代的基础作用。它很可以变化为很多东西:个人名片、个人空间、交换空间、个人媒体、公司媒体、等等等等。是基础应用。
简单地说,Blog是基础核心的应用,Gmail 已经在朝向Life Log的方向发展了。
> Blog在互联网世界中有不可替代的基础作用。它很可以变化为很多东西:个人名片、个人空间、交换空间、个人媒体、公司媒体、等等等等。是基础应用。
本人认为不会。Blog太小众了,无法和邮件,IM等相提并论。如果blog能成为基础应用,BBS岂不更有可能。小众的Blog上不了大舞台。:)
此Blog非彼Blog,Blog所包含代表的Microcontent Publishing/Subscription
模型会融合到各种应用中。今天看到的Public Blog,只是一种形式。
> > 简单地说,Blog是基础核心的应用,Gmail 已经在朝向Life Log的方向发展了。
eBay to include blogs, wikis - will people use
them?<http://socialsoftware.weblogsinc.com/2006/06/02/ebay-to-include-blogs...>
Posted Jun 2nd 2006 3:45PM by Marshall
Kirkpatrick<http://socialsoftware.weblogsinc.com/bloggers/marshall-kirkpatrick>
Filed under: companies<http://socialsoftware.weblogsinc.com/category/companies/>,
e-commerce <http://socialsoftware.weblogsinc.com/category/e-commerce/>
Steve Rubel discovers coverage and then goes in depth on eBay plans to
incorporate blogs and
wikis<http://www.micropersuasion.com/2006/06/ebay_to_launch_.html>in
their service offerings. It looks like an impressive implementation,
but
I have a few questions about it.
- First, if people wanted more in depth discussion - wouldn't the
product descriptions and the buyer/seller feedback be less mass produced
than they are now? "Great customer! Would sell to again for sure!" over
and over again. What percentage of the auction pages are mass produced by
huge eBay store owners?
- Given that this will be a pure commercial space it seems like the
promised land for comment spammers. Will eBay be able to fight spam in a
way that doesn't shut down discussion but works for users?
- Not sure that these mediums are the best suited for this context.
It seems like kind of an awkward application of two very hip, exciting
tools.
- Tag support makes sense if implemented in conjunction with
pre-selected categories and full text search. Given the nature of this
particular market, though, I wonder if this will be the space where we
really see tag spam emerge in a big way for the first time.
- Internationalization of discourse will be an interesting mess to
watch, I'm guessing. Most businesses large enough to do a lot of
international business mitigate language and cultural differences by hiring
specialists to help with these issues. Micro-businesses will not have these
resources and I'll be curious to see how many miscommunications, previously
silent prejudices and other communication issues emerge.
- Business blogging often helps build relationships between companies
and their customers. How much loyalty do you feel to any particular eBay
store? I'm guessing not very much. Thumbs up, thumbs down on reputation
may be enough reputation/communication system for the vast majority of eBay
users.
I'm not sure how much adoption these tools are going to see. Blogging takes
time and energy. I'm not sure that people will find that investment
worthwhile when sprucing up product pages and optimizing for search is
already doable. Does conversation drive commerce, as Rubel says? Or in
this case are we dealing with an intention economy - where people come to
eBay intending to purchase something and only need help finding the best
option at the best price? I've never been too clear on how great an option
it was to be able to call a seller on Skype, so I'm not sure how great an
idea this is. I've only been ripped of on eBay once, though, so perhaps I
don't understand other peoples' need for communication.
非常同意。blog 既有工具的性质又有媒体的特点,作为工具的 blog 将日渐融合到人们的生活中。
> 此Blog非彼Blog,Blog所包含代表的Microcontent Publishing/Subscription
> 模型会融合到各种应用中。今天看到的Public Blog,只是一种形式。
如果作为其他基础服务的补充还是不错的.
如果说是基础,恐怕不现实.
> 会成为基础(比如周鸿一认为每个网站都会有Blog),也会成为突出的应用。
其实David提出了一个很好的说法,即,"基础"指的是什么?基础*功能*,还是基础*服务/内容*?
如果把Web应用当成工具来理解的话,未来所有的应用,都是基于Web的内容的产生、利用、融合,这和Isaac.mao说的,Blog"所包含代表的Microcontent
Publishing/Subscription
模型会融合到各种应用中",是不相矛盾的。我们要忘掉Blog所代表的内容、只把它看成是一个提供内容的工具、方法时,它已经是未来Web应用的必要部分了。未来的应用必然是这样的:
1、融合了各种终端的,比如PC/PDA/Mobile
2、集成了各种内容发布通道的,比如Email/Blog/wiki/IM/Forum/Group/Application
3、多种方式集成内容的,比如RSS Feed/Mashup gadget
4、通过多种方式展现的,比如IE/Client/WML
如无必要,勿增实体。
互联网上的奥卡姆剃刀同样存在并且有效。
blog= web + log
越来越多的应用转移到了Web。
而对于Log,日益成为每个人的必须,并且愿意分享出来。
所以,有什么理由不认为blog不会成为基础呢。
另外,jiang说"blog太小众了,无法和邮件、IM等相提并论"。我不知道这是怎么比较得来的。邮件、IM就不小众了么,我的email只和7、8个人联系、IM也只和20-30人联系,不小众么?所以说,这种说法不妥当。
IM和EMAIL才是小众的活动吧?
我觉得BLOG能成为基础应用。
我直觉认为,以后,每个人联上网后不再是盲目的"冲浪",而是用"搜索"和"订阅"两种方式获取信息,用BLOG发布信息。
所以,我预见,搜索服务如GOOGEL,订阅服务如zhuaxia\bloglines,还有BLOG服务都是网络基础应用。
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